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  1. #1
    michele
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?



    All:

    I'm playing with the reports that ATLAS can generate. Is there a way to =
    include the primary document file name in a report? For example, if I =
    generate a report showing quotations, it would be helpful to me to see =
    in that report not only ATLAS' file name (e.g., 4:3) but the actual file =
    name (mla_89_15.txt). Anyone know a way to do this? Alternatively, is =
    it possible to write one's own custom reports, and if so could someone =
    point me in the right direction for information on how to do it?

    Many thanks

    Michele R
    Syracuse University
    Syracuse, NY

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  2. #2
    Susanne Friese
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?



    Michele,

    no, there is no way to customize output yet. The output format is one of =
    the weak spots of ATLAS.ti. We can hope for more XML output =
    possibilities in the new version that then also can be more easily =
    customised (by writing style sheets).

    Susanne



  3. #3
    Alan Stockdale
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


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    <body><![CDATA[
    Susanne,

    If the data is in XML one should be able to get whatever one wants using
    XSL stylesheets. I'm not sure I want to spend a lot of time writing
    stylesheets. I tried writing one for Transcriber XML data once and that was
    enough. I hope there will eventually be some tools for generating XSL
    stylesheets for Atlas-ti that hide the complexity of raw XSL. Or maybe there
    will be a collection of readily available stylesheets we'll be able to share
    and plug in as needed.

    Alan.



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Susanne Friese" <sf.marktg@CBS.DK>
    To: <ATLAS-TI@LISTSERV.DFN.DE>
    Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:05 PM
    Subject: Re: Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    Michele,

    no, there is no way to customize output yet. The output format is one of the
    weak spots of ATLAS.ti. We can hope for more XML output possibilities in the
    new version that then also can be more easily customised (by writing style
    sheets).

    Susanne



  4. #4
    Alan Stockdale
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    <contenttype>text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</contenttype>

    <body><![CDATA[
    I certainly think it would makes it a lot easier if there were a library of
    sheets one could plug-in or modify to ones particular purposes, rather in
    the way Walter describes doing with Thomas's existing samples. I guess I
    was also thinking of being able to generate XSL code through some automated
    process, rather in the way you can generate VBA code in Word by recording
    keystrokes (that you can then go in an tweak if needed), or maybe in the way
    some of the visual web page editors work, or rather in the way one runs
    database queries in Access and the underlying SQL is generated by filling in
    a form.

    I do think Thomas's XML strategy makes a lot of sense. I'm also looking
    forward to the integration of audio and transcriptions using XML in the way
    Thomas envisioned in his December 2000 paper in Forum: Qualitative Social
    Research. I suspect this is something that won't be present in 5.0 and I
    suspect some of the benefits Thomas envisions (e.g. automatic coding of
    speaker properties) depend on having a XML transcription tool that is more
    oriented to QDA than Transcriber.

    Alan.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Walter D Fernandez" <walterf@BIGPOND.COM>
    To: <ATLAS-TI@LISTSERV.DFN.DE>
    Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 7:08 PM
    Subject: Re: Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    Hi Susanne

    We can do some of that right now. I used one of Thomas' examples and
    modified it to get my memos sorted by creation date order (nothing too
    sophisticated but useful at the time).

    Maybe we could share our style sheets and build a good library over
    time. However I'm not sure what that would require... e.g., place in the
    ATLAS.ti web site, good disclaimer, procedure for loading/commenting, etc.

    Cheers
    Walter
    PS: keep the next version coming please :-)))



  5. #5
    Alan Stockdale
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    <contenttype>text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</contenttype>

    <body><![CDATA[
    Walter,

    Agreed. I think I may have experimented with Cooktop. I messed around with a
    lot of software for writing XSL stylesheets. I think the one I ended up
    liking the most was the free XSL Styler at http://www.seeburger.com/xml/. I
    also used some of the chapters on XSL from the first edition of the XML
    Bible that were posted by the author at "Cafe con Leche XML News and
    Resources" http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/. I think I'd buy the latest edition
    if I felt the need to do a lot of work with XML/XSL. I imagine there will be
    increasing numbers of ever more refined tools for working with XML and XSL
    now all the big software companies are intent on XMLizing everything under
    the sun.

    I think I posted my rather basic stylesheet for Transcriber XML data files
    to the list here. I have since rewritten html.tcl export converter for
    Transcriber by stripping out all the html and adding addition tcl code. I
    now have a rather nice export filter that outputs transcriptions in a text
    format that can be readily used by the current version of Atlas-ti. It
    would be nice if Atlas-ti would import the transcript and the linked MP3
    audio using the Transcriber XML tags!

    Alan.



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Walter D Fernandez" <walterf@BIGPOND.COM>
    To: <ATLAS-TI@LISTSERV.DFN.DE>
    Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 8:33 PM
    Subject: Re: Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    At 11:16 AM 18/02/2002, you wrote:
    >I certainly think it would makes it a lot easier if there were a library of
    >sheets one could plug-in or modify to ones particular purposes, rather in
    >the way Walter describes doing with Thomas's existing samples. I guess I

    Hi Alan

    This could be a good way off adding value and to collaborate to make ATLAS
    as good as it can be. By doing so we can all benefit.

    BTW, last year I reported on this tool that I found good and excellent
    value for money... so I repeat my old message:

    I found a free XML development environment (XML Cooktop) that may be of use
    to people that have an occasional interest in XML/XSLT. XML Cooktop allows
    writing and testing XSLT style sheets, XML documents, DTDs, and XPATHs

    It works on Windows (95/98/98SE/ME/NT4/2000)

    For more info and downloading check out http://www.xmlcooktop.com

    Cheers
    Walter



  6. #6
    Susanne Friese
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?



    Alan,

    > Or maybe there
    > will be a collection of readily available stylesheets we'll be able to =
    share
    > and plug in as needed.

    I think this is the underlying idea.

    Susanne



  7. #7
    Walter D Fernandez
    Guest

    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    <html>
    <font size=3>Hi Susanne<br><br>
    We can do some of that right now.  I used one of Thomas' examples
    and modified it to get my memos sorted by creation date order (nothing
    too sophisticated but useful at the time).<br><br>
    Maybe we could share our style sheets and build a good library over
    time.  However I'm not sure what that would require... e.g., 
    place in the ATLAS.ti web site, good disclaimer, procedure for
    loading/commenting, etc.  <br><br>
    Cheers<br>
    Walter<br>
    PS: keep the next version coming please  :-))) </font></html>

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  8. #8
    Walter D Fernandez
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    Primary Document File Name Inclusion In Reports?


    <html>
    <font size=3>At 11:16 AM 18/02/2002, you wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I certainly think it would makes it
    a lot easier if there were a library of<br>
    sheets one could plug-in or modify to ones particular purposes, rather
    in<br>
    the way Walter describes doing with Thomas's existing samples. I 
    guess I</blockquote><br>
    Hi Alan<br><br>
    This could be a good way off adding value and to collaborate to make
    ATLAS as good as it can be.  By doing so we can all
    benefit.<br><br>
    BTW, last year I reported on this tool that I found good and excellent
    value for money... so I repeat my old message: <br><br>
    I found a free XML development environment (XML Cooktop) that may be of
    use to people that have an occasional interest in XML/XSLT. XML Cooktop
    allows writing and testing XSLT style sheets, XML documents, DTDs, and
    XPATHs <br><br>
    It works on Windows (95/98/98SE/ME/NT4/2000) <br><br>
    For more info and downloading check out
    </font><a href="http://www.xmlcooktop.com/" eudora="autourl"><font size=3 color="#0000FF"><u>http://www.xmlcooktop.com</a><br><br>
    </u></font><font size=3>Cheers<br>
    Walter<br><br>
    </font></html>

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