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  1. #1
    Evelyn Jacob
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    Contextual information in output reports



    Is there a way to have information about (1) the primary document and
    (2) subsections within a primary document (for example, speakers or
    observations in different classrooms) printed as part of output of
    quotations associated with a particular code?

    I understand that the HU, date, and author are included in the output,
    but I am interested in more "contextual" information (like NUDIST's
    heads and subheads, or Ethnograph's contextual comments and
    speaker/section IDs). Is there a way to do this in Atlas/ti?

    Thanks for you help,

    Evelyn Jacob



  2. #2
    Susanne Friese
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    Contextual information in output reports



    Evelyn Jacob schrieb:

    > Is there a way to have information about (1) the primary document and
    > (2) subsections within a primary document (for example, speakers or
    > observations in different classrooms) printed as part of output of
    > quotations associated with a particular code?

    as far as I know, no, you cannot do this. As you do not have to define any
    contextual information, atlas.ti has no way of knowing. the only way you
    can do it is via coding or by grouping documents into families - which of
    course is not the same but it helps for example by demographic type
    information.

    Susanne

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  3. #3
    Jacques Chevrier
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    Contextual information in output reports



    Evelyn Jacob wrote:
    > Is there a way to have information about (1) the primary document and
    > (2) subsections within a primary document (for example, speakers or
    > observations in different classrooms) printed as part of output of
    > quotations associated with a particular code?

    Susanne Friese wrote:
    >as far as I know, no, you cannot do this. As you do not have to define =
    >any contextual information, atlas.ti has no way of knowing. the only >way =
    you can do it is via coding or by grouping documents into families - =
    >which of course is not the same but it helps for example by >demographic =
    type information.

    May I offer some thoughts on this question? Evelyn Jacob and I have the =
    same need and Susanne's suggestion is nice when you know in advance the =
    relationships you want to study. But it does not answer the need to =
    question the data from the quotations themselves and look for emerging =
    links or regularities related to some aspect of the context. Something =
    that would be permitted by having the contextual information printed for =
    each quotation.
    An elegant way to get this contextual information, and also congruent with =
    Atlas' VISE principles and way of working, would be to have the embedding =
    (and/or embedded) codes printed along with the associated codes that are =
    now printed by Atlas\ti with each quotation.
    Now, when we choose the =ABCodes\Output\Quotations for selected code=BB =
    sequence of options, Atlas\ti prints, along with the quotation, only the =
    codes that are used for the quotation itself, not the ones that are =
    embedded in the quotation or embedding the quotation. Adding the =
    possibility of having one or both kinds of codes optionally printed along =
    in the output would permit to analyse from the Ouput report each quotation =
    for the selected code not only with the assocated codes but also with the =
    embedding and/or embbeded codes.
    This possibility of output with embedding codes would permit (among =
    others), if the appropriate parts of the PD were coded according to the =
    researcher's need (speakers, questions for interviews, sections for =
    diaries, etc.), to give some information about the context of the =
    quotation and thus a) ease the analysis by having the information directly =
    available from the printout and not having to go back each time to the PD =
    itself and annotate each quotation by hand, b) help to give more meaning =
    to the analysis process, and c) help develop new hypotheses to explore =
    back in the data through the use of the Query Tool. Actually, it is =
    possible to get this information from the Query Tool (right click on a =
    quotation in the result window) but I am not aware of any way in a printed =
    and permanent manner.
    I think it would be very useful, for a selected code, to have on the =
    output report for each quotation the embedding and/or embedded codes along =
    with the associated codes in order to facilitate the visualization and =
    exploration on paper of the relationships in the data. So far, I resolved =
    part of my needs by coding bigger chunks of text with all the pertinent =
    codes so they would show up in the printout. But I don't find this =
    solution very satisfying or even possible in all circumstances.
    Anyone else with the same needs? Is this possibility of printing contextual=
    information in output reports worth looking into for the next patch?

    Jacques Chevrier

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    Jacques Chevrier
    D=E9partement des sciences de l'=E9ducation
    Universit=E9 du Qu=E9bec =E0 Hull
    C.P. 1250, Succ. B
    Hull, QC, J8X 3X7
    T=E9l: (819)595-3900-1-4410
    Fax: (819)595-4459
    Courriel: jacques_chevrier@uqah.uquebec.ca
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  4. #4
    Jacques Chevrier
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    Contextual information in output reports



    DearAtlas users,

    N.B. I apologize if this message is posted for a second time.

    May I offer some thoughts on this question of contextual information? I =
    seem to share the same need with many others about printing contextual =
    information. The suggestion of using the comment (or memo) is time =
    consuming if, for example, you want to identifiy the speaker for each =
    quotation and very limited in not allowing the powerful use of the =
    QueryTool. Using the family is nice when you know in advance the =
    relationships you want to study, but it does not apply to part of the PD =
    and does not answer the need to question the data from the quotations =
    themselves and look for emerging links or regularities related to some =
    aspect of the context. Something that would be permitted by having the =
    contextual information printed for each quotation.
    A possible way to get this contextual information, and also congruent with =
    Atlas' VISE principles and way of working, would be to code the contextual =
    information and have the embedding (and/or embedded) codes printed along =
    with the associated codes that are printed by Atlas\ti with each quotation.=

    Now, when we choose the =ABCodes\Output\Quotations for selected code=BB =
    sequence of options, Atlas\ti prints, along with the quotation, only the =
    codes that are used for the quotation itself, not the ones that are =
    embedded in the quotation or embedding the quotation. Adding the =
    possibility of having one or both kinds of codes optionally printed along =
    in the output would permit to analyse from the Ouput report each quotation =
    for the selected code not only with the assocated codes but also with the =
    embedding and/or embbeded codes.
    This possibility of output with embedding codes would permit (among =
    others), if the appropriate parts of the PD were coded according to the =
    researcher's need (speakers, questions for interviews, sections for =
    diaries, etc.), to give some information about the context of the =
    quotation and thus a) ease the analysis by having the information directly =
    available from the printout and not having to go back each time to the PD =
    itself and annotate each quotation by hand, b) help to give more meaning =
    to the analysis process, and c) help develop new hypotheses to explore =
    back in the data through the use of the Query Tool. Actually, it is =
    possible to get this information from the Query Tool (right click on a =
    quotation in the result window) but I am not aware of any way in a printed =
    and permanent manner.
    I think it would be very useful, for a selected code, to have on the =
    output report for each quotation the embedding and/or embedded codes along =
    with the associated codes in order to facilitate the visualization and =
    exploration on paper of the relationships in the data. So far, I resolved =
    part of my needs by coding bigger chunks of text with all the pertinent =
    codes so they would show up in the printout. But I don't find this =
    solution very satisfying or even possible in all circumstances.

    Is this possibility of printing contextual information through embedding =
    and embedded codes in output reports worth looking into for the next =
    patch? Would it be permitted by the XML format ?

    Jacques Chevrier

    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jacques Chevrier
    D=E9partement des sciences de l'=E9ducation
    Universit=E9 du Qu=E9bec =E0 Hull
    C.P. 1250, Succ. B
    Hull, QC, J8X 3X7
    T=E9l: (819)595-3900-1-4410
    Fax: (819)595-4459
    Courriel: jacques_chevrier@uqah.uquebec.ca
    --------------------------------------------------------------------



  5. #5
    Doug Morse
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    Contextual information in output reports



    Hello All,

    I just wanted to second Jacques' idea -- I think he hit the nail right on
    the head as to how to most flexibly handle contextual information within
    Atlas.ti. I myself tried this very strategy -- having larger-unit
    quotations coded with context information embed smaller-unit quotations
    coded for substantive issues -- and tried to print out a codes-and-quotation
    report. I was disappointed that there did not seem to be any way to get
    Atlas.ti to print out just the small-unit quotations but with both the
    direct *and* larger-context codes in the quotation header.

    So, I'd very much lend my vote to adding this functionality to the
    "wish-list".

    Just my $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Doug


    > An elegant way to get this contextual information, and also congruent with
    > Atlas' VISE principles and way of working, would be to have the embedding
    > (and/or embedded) codes printed along with the associated codes that are now
    > printed by Atlas\ti with each quotation.
    >
    > Now, when we choose the «Codes\Output\Quotations for selected code» sequence
    > of options, Atlas\ti prints, along with the quotation, only the codes that
    > are used for the quotation itself, not the ones that are embedded in the
    > quotation or embedding the quotation. Adding the possibility of having one
    > or both kinds of codes optionally printed along in the output would permit
    > to analyse from the Ouput report each quotation for the selected code not
    > only with the assocated codes but also with the embedding and/or embbeded
    > codes.
    >
    > Jacques Chevrier


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    Dept. of Psychology of Human Development Email: morse@pobox.com
    Peabody College, Vanderbilt University http://www.pobox.com/~morse



  6. #6
    Chipango & Renate
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    Contextual information in output reports



    Sorry, I am quite late, but so would I.

    Doug Morse wrote:

    > Hello All,
    >
    > I just wanted to second Jacques' idea -- I think he hit the nail right on
    > the head as to how to most flexibly handle contextual information within
    > Atlas.ti. I myself tried this very strategy -- having larger-unit
    > quotations coded with context information embed smaller-unit quotations
    > coded for substantive issues -- and tried to print out a codes-and-quotation
    > report. I was disappointed that there did not seem to be any way to get
    > Atlas.ti to print out just the small-unit quotations but with both the
    > direct *and* larger-context codes in the quotation header.
    >
    > So, I'd very much lend my vote to adding this functionality to the
    > "wish-list".
    >
    > Just my $0.02.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Doug
    >
    > > An elegant way to get this contextual information, and also congruent with
    > > Atlas' VISE principles and way of working, would be to have the embedding
    > > (and/or embedded) codes printed along with the associated codes that are now
    > > printed by Atlas\ti with each quotation.
    > >
    > > Now, when we choose the «Codes\Output\Quotations for selected code» sequence
    > > of options, Atlas\ti prints, along with the quotation, only the codes that
    > > are used for the quotation itself, not the ones that are embedded in the
    > > quotation or embedding the quotation. Adding the possibility of having one
    > > or both kinds of codes optionally printed along in the output would permit
    > > to analyse from the Ouput report each quotation for the selected code not
    > > only with the assocated codes but also with the embedding and/or embbeded
    > > codes.
    > >
    > > Jacques Chevrier
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Douglas L. Morse Voice: 615 / 340-3400
    > Learning Technology Center & Fax: 615 / 340-3410
    > Dept. of Psychology of Human Development Email: morse@pobox.com
    > Peabody College, Vanderbilt University http://www.pobox.com/~morse



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